Well......I just kept going back to the way the stiffeners sat high. I talked to Dave, a builder/friend, of mine and we were afraid that the rivets touching the skin would cause a problem over time from the vibrations. Im pretty bummed but im sure it was ment to be. I called Vans today and ordered a new rudder.268.00 mistake...I dont need anymore of those!!!!!! On to the elevator for now.