Pam is the best riveter in the world. after we spent the morning raking the yard and doing other chores, she came out and helped me rivet the bottom skins on. we worked in two shifts, and at the end of the day, the entire bottom was done, including the curved sectoins. yeah. Pam shot and i bucked, my knees are not in great shape now, but i don't think i'll have to do the sides from inside the canoe.